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Ok I could be totally insane but that "it's so easy" song by the Guns 'n' Roses kicks my ass...oh and also "talk dirty to me" by Poison...

No crazy-like-me here???

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I like a lot of music. I think "hard rock" is good.
But then again, I hate musical genres. It is my one true hate. Like all these little sub genres and niches that the media/ bands class themselves as.

To me Led Zeppelin isn't hard rock, it's just rock. Black Sabbath to me aren't hard rock, they're heavy metal.
Some people refer to Iron Maiden as hard rock or classic rock/metal nahh! They're heavy metal.

There's a lot of good "hard rock" music I think, and there's a lot of shit "hard rock" music, like any genre.

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Geez... this discussion is for the sandbox, kiddies. Now I know why I love Techno.

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Some of us have been waiting for Chinese Democracy since 1985.

I have always hated musical genres, too.

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I think it's safe to say most people don't only listen to one genre of music, and there's always gonna be a couple of records on yer shelf that don't fit in with the rest (for me it's those four fun lovin' criminals ablums sitting next to the sonics). All the same, arena rock is going a bit too far for me.

Joey Vacant

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There's a lot of bad hardrock, and there's a lot bad garagerock (2008 has been an all time low for garagerock, hardly listen any new garagerock anymore cuz it's sooo boring and bland). The hardrock haters mostly confuse hardrock with lame 80s hairmetal, which is like calling Stokes or Vines for garagerock. Here's some names I dig:

New hardrock:

Witchcraft, Graveyard, Dzjenghis Khan, Five Horse Johnson, Orange Sunshine, Tonight, Endless Boogie, Hidden Hand, Om, Sleep, Electric Wizard, Birds Of Maya, Mammatus, Dollhouse, High On Fire.

Old stuff:

Pentagram, Bang, Highway Robbery, Crushed Butler, Buffalo, Sir Lord Baltimore, Budgie, Leaf Hound, Flower Travellin Band, Jericho, Toad, Third World War, Human Instinct, Thin Lizzy, Trouble, St. Vitus, Angel Witch.

Way more exciting than most new cleancut mod wannabe yuppies wearing matching suits.

But anyhoo, fuck hardrock and garagerock, cuz Human Eye's "Fragments Of The Universe Nurse" and Digital Leather's "Sorcerer" are the two best albums of the year!

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I really like Hardrock Gunter.

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Gra Fiend said:
Are we seriously entertaining any of this shit in the Hideout?
By golly, folks like shit that's not garagepunk!!??!!??

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JensLowcut said:
There's a lot of bad hardrock, and there's a lot bad garagerock (2008 has been an all time low for garagerock, hardly listen any new garagerock anymore cuz it's sooo boring and bland).

2008 ...the year GaragePunk can't relate...

"Hard rock" sucks ...if I want to be surrounded by cheap rock regalia and pay thru the nose fer a burger ...now Planet Hollywood... nevermind.

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<<(2008 has been an all time low for garagerock, hardly listen any new garagerock anymore cuz it's sooo boring and bland).>>

Actually I'd argue it's been a pretty good year. I've really enjoyed the 2008 albums by the Dirtbombs, The Fleshtones, Los Peyotes, The Hollywood Sinners.

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I like alot of Jenslowcut's listed bands, but I'm not sure they represent the hard rock in the original post. Budgie is great stuff to put on in the car driving with the windows down on a hot night. But I think most people would call this stuff Heavy Metal (which, I think, some did in earlier posts). If I remember right doesn't Om + High on Fire = Sleep?

Point is I think Heavy Metal in the likes of those fuzzy bands take alot more from garage stuff than what we typically think of as hard rock, which is neither hard, nor rocks.

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I agree with Kopper...I hate this shit. But I also agree with Gringo Starr and the criteria he wrote that defines "rock and roll" (very diplomatic Gringo) and if some "hard rock" fits into that criteria for some of you, then listen to it.
When I was in high school back in the day (I'm Old!), all of my "friends" were into Deep Purple, Sabbath and Grand Funk. I hated that shit and thought it was stupid and pandered to stupid people who needed to be pandered to. Creem made fun of 'em! Now I kinda like those bands, mainly because they're stupid. Go figure!
In the 80s and 90s when a lot of these bands mentioned were at their peak of poularity, I used to love to watch MTV with the sound off. When a video for a "hard rock" or hair-metal band would play without any sound, all that was left was their ridiculous macho visuals and cum faces and rock-god poses. In other words, all that was left was all the reasons these bands and this kind of music sucks and will always suck. Corporate Rockstar dreams for 12 year old boys to buy at the local mall. "Edgy" and "dangerous", yet safe enough to be sold at Wal-Mart. Nice!
Everybody has some skeletons in their musical closets. Lets' trot them all out and make fun of one another because we have different tastes than the thing that brought us all here. Man, that sounds like FUN and a great way to be "punky". Or "hard rock-y".
Ultimately, unless you're being nostalgic for your younger days, why listen to this shit when there is so much GREAT stuff to listen instead of it?

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What am i doing in this Ning if i liked..........

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