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Permalink Reply by RJFait on June 7, 2012 at 11:05am No, no connection. Electric Frankenstein is a great band though.
Chris Henniker said:
Weren't they connected to Electric Frankenstein?
RJFait said:Phoenix, AZ band Crash Street Kids are about as good as glam revival gets.
I heard 2 pelle albums but never the one with Andy Mccoy. Apparently they were finnish only releases.
The Fnords said:
Pelle Miljoona was Andy McCoy's best-known pre-Hanoi Rocks band; I've none of their records though. D.
BRIARD, yeah. Miss World CD with bonus track is really good. Better than Pelle. They re-pressed a Briard 45 too. All Finnish imports though Im afraid.
John Battles said:
Thank , Thank , Thank , Thank you Duke , Duke Duke , Duke of Earl...
There's a short interview with Brett Smiley , by Greg Prevost , in the new Ugly Things....I did'nt know his proposed album was finally released in '03. I thought he was dead , but , then I found out he's still in NYC , PERFORMING WHEN HE'S PHYSICALLY ABLE (HE HAS HIV , BUT , NOT FULL BLOWN AIDS) ..... Well , of course , "Schlong Rock" would have to start with Black Oak Arkansas , then Iggy Pop , in general ,and , well , I don't go around lookin' at 'em too much , to tell the truth. GPH member and Battlefraynt , James Porter , interviewed Syl Sylvain , and had the nuts to ask him "Did you and Johnny stuff for that picture onthe backof the first Dolls ALBUM?" , TO WHICH HE REPLIED "DID WE STUFF?! JOHNNY WAS ITALIAN , AND I'M JEWISH ! OF COURSE WE DID'NT STUFF !!!". THERE YA GO. Syl also told me a cop confronted Johnny , because he was wearing that same red leather suit in that photo. The Policeman thought Johnny had a bag of POT down his pants, when he saw the lengthy protrusion , and demanded that he take his pants off . "AH AIN'T GAAHHT NO UNDAWEAH !!!" , PROTESTED THUNDERS. THE COP SAID , DROP 'EM , JUST THE SAME . AND BOY , WAS HE SORRY HE DID ! He probably can't even look at the elephants in the zoo , anymore .
Briard? was that Andy and Michael Monroe's early band? I heard they were great , bu t, I've never actually heard them
Duke Of Earl said:
Schlong rock, hahah. It be neat if anyone could comprise a list of top10 schlongrock bands, and also the defining qualities seperating "butt" from said "schlong"rock genre.Glad Im reminded that blackie lawless was in Kane band. Might have forgot about that one. Wasp was definately schlong-metal Id say.
You sure have a brilliant mind for details John. I enjoy reading your posts. Apparently Peter Frampton was the guitarist on Jobriaths debut I read. Funny to see the Jobriath vids. Cracks me up. I kinda liked Jobriath though. Damn entertaining.
What are the best underated/unknown UK Glam acts. All kinds sprang up in the mid 70s. Im curious to find more Brett Smiley material, like how do you get the tune cherry hookers. I also wonder about his band vice.
Andy Mccoy s band briard I thought was a punk gem as well. Tuff to the songs from the other finnish album he did pre-hanoi. Still searching it out(no home internet which which makes this quite the task) .Theres some fuzzy youtube vids though.
John Battles said:i WAS THINKING THE SAME THING....Not Metal , but Hard Rock. I'm certainly not a fan (Tho' David Lee's book is HILARIOUS.), But , I'd never call them Glam
.... Glam was over by the time VH's first LP came out (Early '78?). Whoever was still around from that era had moved on to other things , or reworked their sound , drastically ( "Love is Like Oxygen " , while a good song , is miles removed from "Hellraiser" or 'Ballroom Blitz". Of course , David Lee Roth got his schtick from Jim Dandy , so maybe , instead of , or along with , "Butt Rock" , we should call it "Schlong ROCK"..Joanie Lindstrom said:
Not at all IMHO. I'd say hard rock.
Permalink Reply by Daniel M on June 7, 2012 at 9:10pm The Velvet Tinmine comp was mentioned on the first page. Did anyone post this yet:
Oh btw briard/pelle miljoona isnt realy glam, just brought it up because it was hanoi related. Makes me wonder now about any good unheard glam bands/albums. I fear that many of the bands aping that style may have been more toned down like baycityrollers stuff, not sleazy or gender bending enough to be all that amazingly glammy.
Duke Of Earl said:
BRIARD, yeah. Miss World CD with bonus track is really good. Better than Pelle. They re-pressed a Briard 45 too. All Finnish imports though Im afraid.
John Battles said:Thank , Thank , Thank , Thank you Duke , Duke Duke , Duke of Earl...
There's a short interview with Brett Smiley , by Greg Prevost , in the new Ugly Things....I did'nt know his proposed album was finally released in '03. I thought he was dead , but , then I found out he's still in NYC , PERFORMING WHEN HE'S PHYSICALLY ABLE (HE HAS HIV , BUT , NOT FULL BLOWN AIDS) ..... Well , of course , "Schlong Rock" would have to start with Black Oak Arkansas , then Iggy Pop , in general ,and , well , I don't go around lookin' at 'em too much , to tell the truth. GPH member and Battlefraynt , James Porter , interviewed Syl Sylvain , and had the nuts to ask him "Did you and Johnny stuff for that picture onthe backof the first Dolls ALBUM?" , TO WHICH HE REPLIED "DID WE STUFF?! JOHNNY WAS ITALIAN , AND I'M JEWISH ! OF COURSE WE DID'NT STUFF !!!". THERE YA GO. Syl also told me a cop confronted Johnny , because he was wearing that same red leather suit in that photo. The Policeman thought Johnny had a bag of POT down his pants, when he saw the lengthy protrusion , and demanded that he take his pants off . "AH AIN'T GAAHHT NO UNDAWEAH !!!" , PROTESTED THUNDERS. THE COP SAID , DROP 'EM , JUST THE SAME . AND BOY , WAS HE SORRY HE DID ! He probably can't even look at the elephants in the zoo , anymore .
Briard? was that Andy and Michael Monroe's early band? I heard they were great , bu t, I've never actually heard them
Duke Of Earl said:
Schlong rock, hahah. It be neat if anyone could comprise a list of top10 schlongrock bands, and also the defining qualities seperating "butt" from said "schlong"rock genre.Glad Im reminded that blackie lawless was in Kane band. Might have forgot about that one. Wasp was definately schlong-metal Id say.
You sure have a brilliant mind for details John. I enjoy reading your posts. Apparently Peter Frampton was the guitarist on Jobriaths debut I read. Funny to see the Jobriath vids. Cracks me up. I kinda liked Jobriath though. Damn entertaining.
What are the best underated/unknown UK Glam acts. All kinds sprang up in the mid 70s. Im curious to find more Brett Smiley material, like how do you get the tune cherry hookers. I also wonder about his band vice.
Andy Mccoy s band briard I thought was a punk gem as well. Tuff to the songs from the other finnish album he did pre-hanoi. Still searching it out(no home internet which which makes this quite the task) .Theres some fuzzy youtube vids though.
John Battles said:i WAS THINKING THE SAME THING....Not Metal , but Hard Rock. I'm certainly not a fan (Tho' David Lee's book is HILARIOUS.), But , I'd never call them Glam
.... Glam was over by the time VH's first LP came out (Early '78?). Whoever was still around from that era had moved on to other things , or reworked their sound , drastically ( "Love is Like Oxygen " , while a good song , is miles removed from "Hellraiser" or 'Ballroom Blitz". Of course , David Lee Roth got his schtick from Jim Dandy , so maybe , instead of , or along with , "Butt Rock" , we should call it "Schlong ROCK"..Joanie Lindstrom said:
Not at all IMHO. I'd say hard rock.
Permalink Reply by Daniel M on June 8, 2012 at 5:08pm I thought Johan Kugleberg did something about rare glam in Ugly Things but I could be imagining that. I don't have any of the issues with me right now.
Duke Of Earl said:
Oh btw briard/pelle miljoona isnt realy glam, just brought it up because it was hanoi related. Makes me wonder now about any good unheard glam bands/albums. I fear that many of the bands aping that style may have been more toned down like baycityrollers stuff, not sleazy or gender bending enough to be all that amazingly glammy.
Permalink Reply by John Battles on June 11, 2012 at 8:23pm I met Allan Merrill last year at a Group Sound Forum. What an amazing career he's had , from becoming the first major White, Male solo singing star in Japan , to....Hell , what's the name of the Group Sound band her was in(?) , to working with members of The Spiders , Golden Cups , Tigers , etc., and Tetsui Yamamuchi (I know , I spelled it wrong) before the latter joined Free and The Faces , to forming Japan's first Glam BAND , Vodka Collins (Long out of print on Man's Ruin , but, look for 'em , anyway.) to becoming a star with Arrows in England . He said they did very well on the continent , too , but , Mickie Most never got them the U.S. deal he'd promised them. BUT , they replaced The Rollers on their TV show (Tho they were'nt allowed to release anything at the time.). And , this song , eclipsed by a cover version , about 6 OR 7 YEARS LATER.
Daniel M said:
The Velvet Tinmine comp was mentioned on the first page. Did anyone post this yet:
Permalink Reply by John Battles on June 11, 2012 at 8:30pm PROBABLY. tHE ONLY PEOPLE i'VE HEARD TALK ABOUT THEM HAD LIVED IN FINLAND. Andy had , or has , a dysfunctional Rock 'n'Roll "Reality TV' show , liek the Osbournes and The $immon$ family. I saw Andy twice in '88 WITH iGGY pOP , BUT , i THINK THAT'S THE ONLY U.S TOUR HE'S DONE SINCE THE ABORTIVE AND POORLY PROMOTED US TOUR WHICH ENDED , AS I'M SURE YOU ALL KNOW , IN DRUMMER , RAZZLE'S DEATH WITH VINCE NEAL AT THE WHEEL (HE COULD'NT HAVE SENT OUT FOR BEER?). NO , WAIT , THERE WAS ANOTHER BAND. I FORGET THEIR NAME. HIM , DAVE TREGUNNA OR Kenny Laguna, THE GUY FROM lORDS AND sHAM 69. MAYBE NASTY SUICIDE , TOO? They were at China Club , and I refused to go there.
Duke Of Earl said:
I heard 2 pelle albums but never the one with Andy Mccoy. Apparently they were finnish only releases.
The Fnords said:Pelle Miljoona was Andy McCoy's best-known pre-Hanoi Rocks band; I've none of their records though. D.
Permalink Reply by John Battles on June 11, 2012 at 8:33pm
I think you're right , but , I forget.....I like Kugelberg's column.
Daniel M said:
I thought Johan Kugleberg did something about rare glam in Ugly Things but I could be imagining that. I don't have any of the issues with me right now.
Duke Of Earl said:Oh btw briard/pelle miljoona isnt realy glam, just brought it up because it was hanoi related. Makes me wonder now about any good unheard glam bands/albums. I fear that many of the bands aping that style may have been more toned down like baycityrollers stuff, not sleazy or gender bending enough to be all that amazingly glammy.
Permalink Reply by John Battles on June 11, 2012 at 8:39pm Danny Dollrod Kroha is a Schlong Rocker. That's not a put down , he's a good friend of mine. And , if you see him in "Plastercaster" , you'll know he's a VERY good friend to someone. In any case , The Demolition Dollrods were , as a friend once described Black Oak Arkansas , "Voluptuous. Even the males !".
Duke Of Earl said:
BRIARD, yeah. Miss World CD with bonus track is really good. Better than Pelle. They re-pressed a Briard 45 too. All Finnish imports though Im afraid.
John Battles said:Thank , Thank , Thank , Thank you Duke , Duke Duke , Duke of Earl...
There's a short interview with Brett Smiley , by Greg Prevost , in the new Ugly Things....I did'nt know his proposed album was finally released in '03. I thought he was dead , but , then I found out he's still in NYC , PERFORMING WHEN HE'S PHYSICALLY ABLE (HE HAS HIV , BUT , NOT FULL BLOWN AIDS) ..... Well , of course , "Schlong Rock" would have to start with Black Oak Arkansas , then Iggy Pop , in general ,and , well , I don't go around lookin' at 'em too much , to tell the truth. GPH member and Battlefraynt , James Porter , interviewed Syl Sylvain , and had the nuts to ask him "Did you and Johnny stuff for that picture onthe backof the first Dolls ALBUM?" , TO WHICH HE REPLIED "DID WE STUFF?! JOHNNY WAS ITALIAN , AND I'M JEWISH ! OF COURSE WE DID'NT STUFF !!!". THERE YA GO. Syl also told me a cop confronted Johnny , because he was wearing that same red leather suit in that photo. The Policeman thought Johnny had a bag of POT down his pants, when he saw the lengthy protrusion , and demanded that he take his pants off . "AH AIN'T GAAHHT NO UNDAWEAH !!!" , PROTESTED THUNDERS. THE COP SAID , DROP 'EM , JUST THE SAME . AND BOY , WAS HE SORRY HE DID ! He probably can't even look at the elephants in the zoo , anymore .
Briard? was that Andy and Michael Monroe's early band? I heard they were great , bu t, I've never actually heard them
Duke Of Earl said:
Schlong rock, hahah. It be neat if anyone could comprise a list of top10 schlongrock bands, and also the defining qualities seperating "butt" from said "schlong"rock genre.Glad Im reminded that blackie lawless was in Kane band. Might have forgot about that one. Wasp was definately schlong-metal Id say.
You sure have a brilliant mind for details John. I enjoy reading your posts. Apparently Peter Frampton was the guitarist on Jobriaths debut I read. Funny to see the Jobriath vids. Cracks me up. I kinda liked Jobriath though. Damn entertaining.
What are the best underated/unknown UK Glam acts. All kinds sprang up in the mid 70s. Im curious to find more Brett Smiley material, like how do you get the tune cherry hookers. I also wonder about his band vice.
Andy Mccoy s band briard I thought was a punk gem as well. Tuff to the songs from the other finnish album he did pre-hanoi. Still searching it out(no home internet which which makes this quite the task) .Theres some fuzzy youtube vids though.
John Battles said:i WAS THINKING THE SAME THING....Not Metal , but Hard Rock. I'm certainly not a fan (Tho' David Lee's book is HILARIOUS.), But , I'd never call them Glam
.... Glam was over by the time VH's first LP came out (Early '78?). Whoever was still around from that era had moved on to other things , or reworked their sound , drastically ( "Love is Like Oxygen " , while a good song , is miles removed from "Hellraiser" or 'Ballroom Blitz". Of course , David Lee Roth got his schtick from Jim Dandy , so maybe , instead of , or along with , "Butt Rock" , we should call it "Schlong ROCK"..Joanie Lindstrom said:
Not at all IMHO. I'd say hard rock.
Hes on TV? I never realized he reached that level of fame. Over there though bands that are obscure here win awards, so it must be completely different what music is popular in foreign countries.
I think that last band you mentioned might have been the CherryBombz. If thats what band you meant, I wouldnt have went either I guess.
John Battles said:
PROBABLY. tHE ONLY PEOPLE i'VE HEARD TALK ABOUT THEM HAD LIVED IN FINLAND. Andy had , or has , a dysfunctional Rock 'n'Roll "Reality TV' show , liek the Osbournes and The $immon$ family. I saw Andy twice in '88 WITH iGGY pOP , BUT , i THINK THAT'S THE ONLY U.S TOUR HE'S DONE SINCE THE ABORTIVE AND POORLY PROMOTED US TOUR WHICH ENDED , AS I'M SURE YOU ALL KNOW , IN DRUMMER , RAZZLE'S DEATH WITH VINCE NEAL AT THE WHEEL (HE COULD'NT HAVE SENT OUT FOR BEER?). NO , WAIT , THERE WAS ANOTHER BAND. I FORGET THEIR NAME. HIM , DAVE TREGUNNA OR Kenny Laguna, THE GUY FROM lORDS AND sHAM 69. MAYBE NASTY SUICIDE , TOO? They were at China Club , and I refused to go there.
Duke Of Earl said:I heard 2 pelle albums but never the one with Andy Mccoy. Apparently they were finnish only releases.
The Fnords said:Pelle Miljoona was Andy McCoy's best-known pre-Hanoi Rocks band; I've none of their records though. D.
He played in an early Japanese band before joining the Arrows? Sounds interesting. Vodka Collins, hmm.
John Battles said:
I met Allan Merrill last year at a Group Sound Forum. What an amazing career he's had , from becoming the first major White, Male solo singing star in Japan , to....Hell , what's the name of the Group Sound band her was in(?) , to working with members of The Spiders , Golden Cups , Tigers , etc., and Tetsui Yamamuchi (I know , I spelled it wrong) before the latter joined Free and The Faces , to forming Japan's first Glam BAND , Vodka Collins (Long out of print on Man's Ruin , but, look for 'em , anyway.) to becoming a star with Arrows in England . He said they did very well on the continent , too , but , Mickie Most never got them the U.S. deal he'd promised them. BUT , they replaced The Rollers on their TV show (Tho they were'nt allowed to release anything at the time.). And , this song , eclipsed by a cover version , about 6 OR 7 YEARS LATER.
Daniel M said:The Velvet Tinmine comp was mentioned on the first page. Did anyone post this yet:
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