Bootlegs

[Adrian]

What is your favorite live/bootleg you have gotten over the years? Mine are Tales from the Crypt by The Mummies and Prime Directive Exterminate the Whole Ruman Race by The Misfits (even though the sound quality is complete shit.)

[johnny anderson]

Radio Birdmans "Rock 'n' Roll War" and Cure @ Ontario Theater, Washington nov 16:th 1984.

[John Battles]

I'd probably narrow it down to a Cramps bootleg , but , that would be too easy. Here's a few that rate high with me -

The Troggs - Live , Whisky A Go Go . Fuckin' blistering set , ca. the official release , "Live at Max's" , BUT , SEEMINGLY A LITTLE LATER, putting it at maybe 1980. Much better song selection and edgier performances in general (Not that "Max's" is'nt worth a shit. It's very good. Just a few too many covers.), and the usual Trogg humor-

 REG : "EFF THAT YOONG BARMAID IS AROYND WITH A GLASS OF WATER , OY'D LOVE ONE.".

CHRIS (?) : Even if she's aroynd WITHOOT a glass of water !".

It sounds like Chris Britton on this recording , don't know if he'd rejoined The Troggs , yet.

Ramones - Live Cambridge , 1976. One of the best Ramones boots I've ever heard . Maybe THEE best. Plus side : GREAT SOUND , ULTRA - RAW BASHIN' PERFORMANCES , AND A RARE LIVE "BABYSITTER".  Down side : You get to hear some jock douchebags who are probably wealthy businessmen , today , beating the crap out of some of the members of DMZ.

Roky Erickson and The Aliens - "You Will Believe in Ghosts" This 2 LP live set , believed to be from 1977 features the classic Aliens lineup in Top form , with Roky in great voice , improvising on occasion with horrific results ( "I'm gonna break every bone in your body , lord , and I know just how to say it to you.....I told you I would see...you die ! Nothing, it , My God , God almighty , oh , God , My God !" ("Before in The Beginning")

But his stage raps are thebest - " One day , Mary Shelley and a group of friends were talking , and , all of a sudden , Frankenstein hit them , it was the scariest place imaginable.....So , this is Frankenstein II , Dracula II is coming...coming out , in tree form. Dr. Acula  .".

" This is a cameo picture that you left....about 100 Quilion years ago. The only kinds of stories I like to read are like by Ambrose Bierce...and things about things with big eyes , watching you. What if IT WAS THAT ? THAT'S A HORSE OF A DIFFERENT COLOR. ".

Plus side : The extremely rare "I Know How To Love You" (It's not even in the "Openers 2" book. ), and a terrific version of "Bo Diddley is a Headhunter " .

Down side : No "You're Gonna Miss Me" or "Splash One " , but life does go on.

This set , believed to be from Germany , was sold at Austin's outstanding and now - defunct Record Exchange (Not exclusively) . They charged a little more than they had to for it , so they could give Roky some money from the copies they sold.

[John Battles]

John Battles said:

I'd probably narrow it down to a Cramps bootleg , but , that would be too easy. Here's a few that rate high with me -

The Troggs - Live , Whisky A Go Go . Fuckin' blistering set , ca. the official release , "Live at Max's" , BUT , SEEMINGLY A LITTLE LATER, putting it at maybe 1980. Much better song selection and edgier performances in general (Not that "Max's" is'nt worth a shit. It's very good. Just a few too many covers.), and the usual Trogg humor-

 REG : "EFF THAT YOONG BARMAID IS AROYND WITH A GLASS OF WATER , OY'D LOVE ONE.".

CHRIS (?) : Even if she's aroynd WITHOOT a glass of water !".

It sounds like Chris Britton on this recording , don't know if he'd rejoined The Troggs , yet.

Ramones - Live Cambridge , 1976. One of the best Ramones boots I've ever heard . Maybe THEE best. Plus side : GREAT SOUND , ULTRA - RAW BASHIN' PERFORMANCES , AND A RARE LIVE "BABYSITTER".  Down side : You get to hear some jock douchebags who are probably wealthy businessmen , today , beating the crap out of some of the members of DMZ.

Roky Erickson and The Aliens - "You Will Believe in Ghosts" This 2 LP live set , believed to be from 1977 features the classic Aliens lineup in Top form , with Roky in great voice , improvising on occasion with horrific results ( "I'm gonna break every bone in your body , lord , and I know just how to say it to you.....I told you I would see...you die ! Nothing, it , My God , God almighty , oh , God , My God !" ("Before in The Beginning")

But his stage raps are thebest - " One day , Mary Shelley and a group of friends were talking , and , all of a sudden , Frankenstein hit them , it was the scariest place imaginable.....So , this is Frankenstein II , Dracula II is coming...coming out , in tree form. Dr. Acula  .".

" This is a cameo picture that you left....about 100 Quilion years ago. The only kinds of stories I like to read are like by Ambrose Bierce...and things about things with big eyes , watching you. What if IT WAS THAT ? THAT'S A HORSE OF A DIFFERENT COLOR. ".

Plus side : The extremely rare "I Know How To Love You" (It's not even in the "Openers 2" book. ), and a terrific version of "Bo Diddley is a Headhunter " .

Down side : No "You're Gonna Miss Me" or "Splash One " , but life does go on.

This set , believed to be from Germany , was sold at Austin's outstanding and now - defunct Record Exchange (Not exclusively) . They charged a little more than they had to for it , so they could give Roky some money from the copies they sold.

 

 

 

 

 

Two of the earliest boots I ever heard were "David Bowie in Person", which is HALF , not all , of the fabled Ziggy Stardust Santa Monica Civic 1972 concert. It was a Trademark of Quality (One of the first Bootleg imprints, Still active in the 90's , tho' probably not the same people.)release , ongreen vinyl. It's more readily available , the entire show , today. Soundboard. My oldest Brother, Tom , had it.

My second oldest Brother , Steve , had / still has " The Rollling Stones , European Tour , 1970" Double LP on Rubber Dubber (The other major early Bootleg label. In fact , this release may be one of the first Bootlegs ,ever.).

I recently scored this for $6 , as well as the better known "Live'r Than You'll Ever Be" (Also a steal at $6 ) , credited as the incentive for The Stones TO FINALLY DO A LEGIT LIVE IN '70 LP OF THEIR OWN.....However , it's hard to believe the former release did'nt also inspire "Get Your Ya Ya's Out ! " , as it's a great performance , soundboard , not perfect , but , very good by the standards of the day , and , there's THREE Chuck Berry songs ( Let It Rock , Little Queenie and Roll Over , Beethoven.).

[Mike]

John,

  My older brothers also used to have those Trademark Of Quality boots. The only one that survived to get passed along to me is The Who Live at Fillmore East, which I believe is from 1968. Great set and sound, though mine has lots of surface noise now. Those "Trademark" guys are featured in the history of bootleg records (forget what it's called) book if I recall accurately.

  Another one I think is good is the Buzzcocks - "12 Reasons" which is early demo recordings. And the Pistols boot called "My Name Is John" which is from the Atlanta, Georgia show.

 

[John Battles]

I KNOW WHICH ONE YOU MEAN , MIKE , AND I THINK THAT WAS FROM 1968. I HAVE A COUPLE OF SIMILAR BOOTS ON THE WHO , AS WELL.   I WAS JUST TALKING , TOO , WITH ANOTHER FRIEND , HERE , ABOUT A SIMILAR BUZZCOCKS BOOT , I THINK IT'S CALLED "TIME'S UP" , HOWARD DEVOTO - ERA STUFF. IT SCREAMS "LEGIT" , GREAT SOUND , BEAUTIFUL PACKAGING , A DEVOTO/SHELLEY INTERVIEW 45 THAT SEEMED TO BE MADE JUST FOR THE RELEASE . TURNS OUT , IT WAS A BOOT.

"BACK IN THE DAY" (HA HA) , RECORD STORES , HEAD SHOPS , TOO , WOULD CARRY THOSE BOOTLEGS , MANY OF WHICH HAD NO ARTWORK . MORE AND MORE , THEY TURN UP IN USED RECORD STORES , SOMETIMES THEY'RE RE - PRESSINGS , DONE WITHOUT SO MUCH AS A HOWDY DO. "BOOTLEGGING THE BOOTLEGGERS" AS JOHNNY THUNDERS CALLED IT.    THERE'S ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE , THUNDERS MADE HIS OPINIONS ON BOOTLEGS KNOWN , BUT , WHEN I SAW HIM IN '86 , IN DALLAS , HIS SOLO RECORDS , HEARTBREAKERS (TRACK'S NEWEST HITMAKERS!), AND ORIGINAL DOLLS LPs WERE ALMOST UNOBTAINABLE. SOME KIDS BROUGHT THE NOTORIOUS "LIVE , DALLAS '74" LP WITH THEM , BECAUSE IT WAS ABOUT ALL YOU COULDFIND AT THE TIME. HE SIGNED 'EM ANYWAY. I INTERVIEWED SYLVAIN SYLVAIN , AND HE SAID , "GOD BLESS THE BOOTLEGGERS , BECAUSE OUR STUFF WAS OUT OF PRINT , MERCURY DID'NT WANT TO DEAL WITH IT , AND THE BOOTLEGGERS KEPT THE DOLLS IN THE PUBLIC CONSCIENCE."

[John Battles]

The former I have , it IS really good. I've got one called "Eureka" with all these great covers - "Let The Kids Dance" , "King of The Surf" , "L.A. Woman" , "T.V.EYE" (of course.) and "You're Gonna Miss Me" (But , of course !), but the sound is pretty bad , like it's a dupe of a dupe , not necessarily a bad recrding to begin with .... I can't help thinking there's a better version , out there.....
 
johnny anderson said:

Radio Birdmans "Rock 'n' Roll War" and Cure @ Ontario Theater, Washington nov 16:th 1984.

[Mike]

"BOOTLEGGING THE BOOTLEGGERS" AS JOHNNY THUNDERS CALLED IT.    THERE'S ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE , THUNDERS MADE HIS OPINIONS ON BOOTLEGS KNOWN ,"

Yea I saw Thunders a few times in the mid 80's too. One show was at the Roxy here in LA which a pretty good bootleg CD was made several years later, which Thunders sister then "bootlegged" the bootleggers and put it out legitly.

[John Battles]

Are you talking about the set with The Idols - Jerry Nolan , Arthur Kane and Barry Jones ("The Black Thunders".) ? Man , that was one of the best ! When he was on , he was on , and Johnny's in his glory , there !
 
Mike said:

"BOOTLEGGING THE BOOTLEGGERS" AS JOHNNY THUNDERS CALLED IT.    THERE'S ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE , THUNDERS MADE HIS OPINIONS ON BOOTLEGS KNOWN ,"

Yea I saw Thunders a few times in the mid 80's too. One show was at the Roxy here in LA which a pretty good bootleg CD was made several years later, which Thunders sister then "bootlegged" the bootleggers and put it out legitly.

[Mike]

Yea, that was the one. It was a great show. That boot was recorded with a DAT recorder from the balcony as I recall. I saw him more than once at the Roxy, I think the other time was the year before this.

[Fuzzmeister]

I collected quite a few Hendrix boots when I lived in Holland as a teenager. My favourite was called Guitar Hero which was basically the BBC stuff. Took them about 20 years to put that out legit on Ryko records and then it took a bit longer yet to get all of it out, on the BBC sessions double CD

[Alex]

I would have to pick the not-so-legit reissue of the S/T LP by The Pack (German punk band).

[John Battles]

COOL ! Of course , it's available on DVD , with tracks (Bad choice of words) not on the LP , CD , PREVIOUS VHS VERSION , ETC. WHAT'S THAT LABEL? BVM ? They're doing some great , and some GOOD , stuff for Punk rarities and other delights .
 
Mike said:

Yea, that was the one. It was a great show. That boot was recorded with a DAT recorder from the balcony as I recall. I saw him more than once at the Roxy, I think the other time was the year before this.