Are there any real reasons to dislike the FAB FOUR ? And I think about

REAL reasons ... not reasons in that way like " I-want-to-be-a-ultra-cool-hipster-

and-I -only-listen-to-sixties-bands-nobody-knows-because-I'm-so-special ".

I guess the BEATLES are ( next to the WHO and the KINKS ) the most 

cool, stylish and awesome band ever. They played in the same league

as ELVIS ... and ELVIS is GOD you know. 

What do you think about ? 

 

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Nope i can't think of any and RUBBER SOUL is still my number one fave rave LP.

However i can't agree with ya Elvis statement.There's a couple of late sixties and Vegas tunes i like but his other stuff is pant's to my ear's.

The Beatles wrote their own songs... If Elvis is 'God' then The Beatles are definately 'bigger than God'!

Now if we kept the Hamburg Beatles I would be happy, what we got was a big money maker for the recording business and they played the game to a tee.  They were for the greater part performing monkeys,

"Ohhhh Ringow gaw doo us a turn ya scally"

"Pauly doo that chimp noyse again ....awww yer face it lawks so cute" 

Sure they turned in some good sides but science says if you get monkeys in a room with a computer one will produce a work of Shakespeare in time.  That is what happened with the Beatles, press record and once in a while something decent would be caught on tape, mostly there was shit throwing and banana skin slipping though.  

I blame the kids mostly for falling for it.  Their parents had WWII to contend with and Glenn Miller music still resonating behind the bombs of the invasion, Glenn said more without lyrics than the Beatles ever did on a cup of tea with the Maharajah. Glenn died for his art and country stopping Nazi stormtroopers and V2 missiles single handedly with his trombone.  The Beatles went to Germany and acted the fool ripping off American music.

The Beatles to me innovated nothing that was not already going on around the world, they were just an early musical karaoke machine for the kids just sensible enough to rip off, R n' R, R n' B, Folk Soul, Psychedelia... haha.... blah blah... and write their own lyrics to the stolen tunes.

I still have not made it through a whole Beatles record in all my years.  Without skipping a track or seven.  Believe me I tried to like the boys because the bands I love loved them.  But again the bands I loved were stupid enough to buy the music biz and press' propaganda....  

The capitalists hogwash.  Earn the industry money monkey....  OOOOHHHHhhhhhhh (shakes floppy hair and winks at camera cutely, sound like Justin Beiber???  )

Rubber Soul and Revolver are two of my all time faves. There is also a discussion going on in the "Identify the LP cover" thread where someone was saying that people here don't like the Doors or the Stones!!?? What ever gave you guys this impression to start with?? I think you are missing something here. This site highlights predominantly the words 'Garage' and 'Punk' which in my book points to the more amateur, raw, and rarely known rock and roll sounds throughout the ages. Why do we love this sound? Because it's real and dirty and almost divorced from the 'Music Business' side of things. Not because we wanna be 'cool hipsters'. And I'm sure it's safe to say that every 'thinking' rock and roll fan here on the Hideout understands that without bands like the Beatles, Stones, Kinks, The Who, The Animals, Them, etc, there wouldn't have been much for mid-60's suburban teenagers jamming in their garage to emulate.

The Beatles were the first band to revive wild Rock & Roll.  Approved!!!

And…..Ringo is an amazing drummer. 

Kept Roy Head from having a number one hit with Treat Her Right is one reason not to like them.

....People dislike , or can take or leave , The Beatles , for various reasons. Maybe some are'nt entirely justifiable , fair enough.  Myself , I remember when The Beatles were still in rotation on AM radio , because they were current. I was'nt there for the whole phenomenon (I was , physically , there.) . I was about 4 or 5 when "Yellow Submarine" came out , and saw it , then , and I even remember where I was when I learned of their breakup (Just as well as I remember where I was when Elvis died.).....That said , like a lot of people , my big Beatle phase was from early to late teens. I really got deluged with them . That's just me. I also got deluged with The Stones and The Who , but , I went back. It's a lot easier to know the less - obvious stuff in The Beatles' back catalogue , today , than The Stones . There's a reason a Stones tribute band can , generally , only pick from 20 songs , while , nearly anything by The Beatles , short of "You Know My Name" and a few others , would still be politically correct , today.....It sure is'nt because The Stones , too , don't have about a zillion lesser - known  gems . But , when I was really geeked up about The Beatles , it was a loner trip. Ditto for The Stones.  It's easy to think everyone was into blatantly obvious Mainstream Rock in The Late 70's - Early 80's....They were , but , it was Boston , Journey , Foreigner , Eagles.....  It's easy to knock The Beatles because they're too Pop ("I'm Down" is Pop?!), but , the Hipster types probably do so without at least having a sensible backing argument.  I just had to get off the Magical Mystery Tour Bus back in The 80's. But , The Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band.....That's another story , entirely.

Surely the Hamburg Beatles were a karaoke machine, just churning out endless covers for drunken audiences. I don't think the reason people still hold The Beatles in such high regard is ANYTHING to do with buying into the propaganda that you mention, it's to do with the quality of their original material and (whether you like it or agree or not) the fact that they changed EVERYTHING in a pop culture context. Just ask Roger McGuinn or Brian Wilson!! 

hicksville hogwash said:

Now if we kept the Hamburg Beatles I would be happy, what we got was a big money maker for the recording business and they played the game to a tee.  They were for the greater part performing monkeys,

"Ohhhh Ringow gaw doo us a turn ya scally"

"Pauly doo that chimp noyse again ....awww yer face it lawks so cute" 

Sure they turned in some good sides but science says if you get monkeys in a room with a computer one will produce a work of Shakespeare in time.  That is what happened with the Beatles, press record and once in a while something decent would be caught on tape, mostly there was shit throwing and banana skin slipping though.  

I blame the kids mostly for falling for it.  Their parents had WWII to contend with and Glenn Miller music still resonating behind the bombs of the invasion, Glenn said more without lyrics than the Beatles ever did on a cup of tea with the Maharajah. Glenn died for his art and country stopping Nazi stormtroopers and V2 missiles single handedly with his trombone.  The Beatles went to Germany and acted the fool ripping off American music.

The Beatles to me innovated nothing that was not already going on around the world, they were just an early musical karaoke machine for the kids just sensible enough to rip off, R n' R, R n' B, Folk Soul, Psychedelia... haha.... blah blah... and write their own lyrics to the stolen tunes.

I still have not made it through a whole Beatles record in all my years.  Without skipping a track or seven.  Believe me I tried to like the boys because the bands I love loved them.  But again the bands I loved were stupid enough to buy the music biz and press' propaganda....  

The capitalists hogwash.  Earn the industry money monkey....  OOOOHHHHhhhhhhh (shakes floppy hair and winks at camera cutely, sound like Justin Beiber???  )

The Beatles were my first obsession, and I played my mom's Sgt. Pepper album endlessly as a 9 year old.  Their pop masterpieces carved neural pathways into my young brain, shaping it, and preparing it for more the more "challenging" music I would absorb later on, developing my taste for all things counterculture.  That being said, some of their songs have not aged well and seem lightweight and safe when compared with their contemporaries.  They are not my favorite band (The Velvet Underground), but I will always defend them as the greatest and most important rock band of all time.

We need to try to respect other people's religious beliefs. That said , in my Bible , Elvis is God , and Chuck is God , and Bo is God , Little Richard , Jerry Lee Lewis , Eddie Cochran , Gene Vincent , Link Wray...Gods....Even John Lennon once knealt down and kissed Jerry Lee's feet. Jerry Lee said "Boy , you ruined a brand new shoe shine !".....The Beatles and The Stones , were they Isaac and Abraham , or a couple of golden calves? Consult Revelatons (Where you'll find nothing revelatory on the subject.).

Dearest Mr. Mole you are indeed correct, Hamburg Beatles were karaoke but are not all garage bands karaoke?  That is my point I guess.  When they played 3 chords they were leather clad greaser punks singing black music for the children of Nazi supporters.  A weird time I am sure, trying to sleep with rats and bedbugs in urine stinking bar bunk beds while you are speeding on Third Reich crystal meth while Pete Best is humping some dodgy fraulein from Dusseldorf while Lennon is harping on about existentialism while McCartney is pruning himself going is this "whoooooooooohhh cuter than this whhhooooo?" while Sutcliff is practicing his German dialect sternly, "ich leiber dict, is that right, John?"  Man, I wish this is what they sang about ...but nah "I wanna hold your friggin hand"  No wonder "Besty" left in disgust to leave his spunk stained drum seat for the more mentally malleable comedian Ringo.  Best was a Teddy Boy rebel rocker who refused the moppy hair chops, the matching Burton suits, the dilution of the rock with the pop.  Besty is the true punk in the band the hero, the zero, the Nero.... the outcast of the kings of pop, the saviours of rock n' roll.  

Don't mean to upset anyone but I do wonder about the mental state of anyone who claims not to like the Beatles.  Apart from everything else they contributed to making the world a better place, without them I doubt very much whether this site would exist.  THEY CHANGED EVERYTHING.

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