The Ramones. They did more than three records, ya know...

[John Battles]

How many of you are of the opinion that  THE RAMONES did NOT jump the shark after their 4th , or even third , album? The way I see it , they never did a BAD album , even if some material was'nt up to par. In the 80's and 90's , their worst still beat the competition at their best . Their shows and their records always had a magic about them, even when they were no longer breaking new ground.   What are some of your favorite later Ramones albums , and why? Any favorite songs that most people are barely cognizant of.     BTW , Joey's second posthumous solo album is much better than anyone had a right to expect. Give it a go.

[John Battles]

VERY NICE. THANKS FOR SHARING.

Audio Gasoline said:

Maybe a little OT, but this seemed like a good place to share this poster, since I don't pull it out very often.

The show was in 2001 about a month after Joey died, at a tiny club in Springfield, OR. It was the 8th Birthday Party for University of Oregon campus radio station 88.1 KWVA. My buddy Goro from The Snukas hand screened these, and only made about 30. He gave me one to put in my shop window, but it went straight into my music collection. Not sure if any more are still around.

Dee Dee seemed to be in good sprits that night, mixing at the bar during the warm-up bands. He and Goro hit it off, and he brought Goro up onstage to sing Blitzkrieg Bop. It was a fun night. I saw a couple of camcorders running, but haven't seen any footage on the web - let me know if you know of any. I DAT taped it, but haven't been able to find it since I moved 4 years ago... I fear it's gone for good.

[John Battles]

Yeah , I still like those abums , too. I'm not saying they were remarkably consistent, but I'd hardly say The Ramones embarrassed themselves on their farewell release.

''Rainbows" is a lovely song , tho' I like Ronnie Spector's (Prod. by Joey.) version better . She did "Here Today , Gone Tomorrow" , twice, too. Great stuff.
 
Manu said:

Two albums after the difficult 80's

1993: Acid Eaters for the great 60's songs' covers

1995: Adios Amigos, they came back to the roots with this album - it also includes one of the most beautiful (yes!) Ramones songs (She talks to rainbows)

[The Mighties]

Just to say that me and my band we'll open the next italian gig of Marky Ramone...what an honor!!

[Dalevis]

Went to the Hollywood Forever Cemetery on Monday to pay my respects to Johnny and Dee Dee. It was comforting to know that they weren't buried in a pet cemetery. They didn't want that.

[John Battles]

Beautiful pictures. I hear Dee Dee gets a lot more stuff from fans than Johnny. I did'nt know the line from " Highest Trails Above" was inscribed on Dee Dee's tombstone.  I think The Ramones did just two songs from "Subterranean Jungle" , when I first saw them in '84 , and that was one of them.....Some critic said it was a silly song. Whatever. I always liked it , especially that machine gun guitar break (Again , probably Walter Lure.).
Dalevis said:

Went to the Hollywood Forever Cemetery on Monday to pay my respects to Johnny and Dee Dee. It was comforting to know that they weren't buried in a pet cemetery. They didn't want that.

[Larabee]

It was the dynamic between Johnny's vision of the band and Joey's penchant for pop songs that kept The Ramones relevant throughout their career.  It's hard to pick one of the latter albums as a favorite, but the Acid Eaters album of covers pulls together the two band dynamics pretty well (Substitute and Surf City are personal favorites).

 

[Dalevis]

It did appear that there was more of a fan personal connection on Dee Dee's grave (notice the lipstick prints) but Johnny's is in such a visible spot right along the drive, the cemetery folks probably don't let stuff like beer cans and what not stay on his very long. It was cool to see the statue on Johnny's memorial. It's kind of in your face especially since it is a very traditional cemetery despite all of the famous people buried there. If you are ever in Hollywood you have to go.

John Battles said:

Beautiful pictures. I hear Dee Dee gets a lot more stuff from fans than Johnny. I did'nt know the line from " Highest Trails Above" was inscribed on Dee Dee's tombstone.  I think The Ramones did just two songs from "Subterranean Jungle" , when I first saw them in '84 , and that was one of them.....Some critic said it was a silly song. Whatever. I always liked it , especially that machine gun guitar break (Again , probably Walter Lure.).
Dalevis said:

Went to the Hollywood Forever Cemetery on Monday to pay my respects to Johnny and Dee Dee. It was comforting to know that they weren't buried in a pet cemetery. They didn't want that.

[Tyler]

I'm listening to the new cj album right now, availabe on itunes. so far, it's fucking awesome.

[Ax Bonmati]

2 periods :

Before and After TOO TOUGH TO DIE...

BEFORE : The Best Punk Rock Band ever playing the best Pop songs ever.

AFTER : The Best Band EVER.

[The Pygmies]

I think the first five albums are gold start to finish (six if you incude It's Alive). Every album after that still contains at least one or two classics that justified the band's existence.

What I can't stand to hear is any live recordings from the late 80's onward, when Joey started doing his Morrison-ish metal growl and the band played so fast there was no room for melody. 

[Rev. Norb]

The shark-jump with regards to live performances definitely has to do with when Marky returned and changed his style. If you watch him play circa 1980, his usual beat sounds like this: BOOMP-shick-a-BOOMP-shick-a-BOOMP-shick-a-BOOMP-shick-a ((like the "End of the Century" version of "Rock & Roll High School)). Sometime in the late 80's ((i'm assuming it's when he re-replaced Elvis/Richie, but i can't be sure)), he just started going SHICKABAPPA SHICKABAPPA SHICKABAPPA SHICKABAPPA a million miles an hour on the hi-hat and snare and it sounded like shit. Feel free to quote me on this.

The Pygmies said:

I think the first five albums are gold start to finish (six if you incude It's Alive). Every album after that still contains at least one or two classics that justified the band's existence.

What I can't stand to hear is any live recordings from the late 80's onward, when Joey started doing his Morrison-ish metal growl and the band played so fast there was no room for melody. 

[The Pygmies]

Good point!  That's also where all the 90's Ramones clone bands got it wrong too (well that, and everything else).

Rev. Norb said:

The shark-jump with regards to live performances definitely has to do with when Marky returned and changed his style. If you watch him play circa 1980, his usual beat sounds like this: BOOMP-shick-a-BOOMP-shick-a-BOOMP-shick-a-BOOMP-shick-a ((like the "End of the Century" version of "Rock & Roll High School)). Sometime in the late 80's ((i'm assuming it's when he re-replaced Elvis/Richie, but i can't be sure)), he just started going SHICKABAPPA SHICKABAPPA SHICKABAPPA SHICKABAPPA a million miles an hour on the hi-hat and snare and it sounded like shit. Feel free to quote me on this.

The Pygmies said:

I think the first five albums are gold start to finish (six if you incude It's Alive). Every album after that still contains at least one or two classics that justified the band's existence.

What I can't stand to hear is any live recordings from the late 80's onward, when Joey started doing his Morrison-ish metal growl and the band played so fast there was no room for melody.