The Ramones. They did more than three records, ya know...

[John Battles]

How many of you are of the opinion that  THE RAMONES did NOT jump the shark after their 4th , or even third , album? The way I see it , they never did a BAD album , even if some material was'nt up to par. In the 80's and 90's , their worst still beat the competition at their best . Their shows and their records always had a magic about them, even when they were no longer breaking new ground.   What are some of your favorite later Ramones albums , and why? Any favorite songs that most people are barely cognizant of.     BTW , Joey's second posthumous solo album is much better than anyone had a right to expect. Give it a go.

[Fuzzmeister]

Pleasant Dreams. Simply because it was full of great songs!

[Old School Hero]

A song not many people seem to be into on a site like this is I Won't Let It Happen. I love that song.

[Alex]

End of the Century and Subterranean Jungle!

[Scotty C.]

Even Dee Dee's crappy rap album is a riot to listen to!

[The FRANCS]

Too Tough to Die. Chock full of great tunes. Planet Earth 1988 may be the only Ramones song (other than cover songs) that ends in a minor chord!

I also love I Can't Get You Out Of My Mind and This Business is Killing Me off of Pleasant Dreams.

And how about their version of Happy Birthday played for Mr. Burns on the Simpsons...

[MikeL]

Try telling this to Michael Kastelic of the Cynics:)  As far as he's concerned, those first three albums were the only good ones because Tommy was both the band's drummer and producer at the time.

Speaking for myself, I've heard some great tracks from the later albums on the UG, but I've just never gotten around to checking them out.  I especially like "7-11," "Go Lil' Camaro Go," "A Real Cool Time," and "Bonzo Goes to Bitburg."  The only later album I have is "End of the Century,"  and "Danny Says" is my favorite track from that album.

[kopper]

Yeah, I friggin' LOVE that album. Party favorite!

Scotty C. said:

Even Dee Dee's crappy rap album is a riot to listen to!

[The FRANCS]

SMF said:

Too Tough to Die. Chock full of great tunes. Planet Earth 1988 may be the only Ramones song (other than cover songs) that ends in a minor chord!

I also love I Can't Get You Out Of My Mind and This Business is Killing Me off of Pleasant Dreams.

And how about their version of Happy Birthday played for Mr. Burns on the Simpsons...

EDIT DUE TO MY FAULTY BRAIN:

The song ending in a minor chord is I'm Not Afraid of Life... not Planet Earth 1988.
Oops.

Whew, I'm glad I cleared that up!

[John Battles]

 I , personally , can't make it thru all of that album , BUT , I never traded it back in. I like "Poor Little Rich Girl', "The Crusher" and "Baby Doll" (Not  to be mistaken for the Neil Diamond - riff rocker Dee Dee wrote for The Chesterfield Kings.) is a beautiful love song."Funky Man" , now THAT's fucking hilarious ! Drop what you'r doing , and watch the video on You Tube !
Scotty C. said:

Even Dee Dee's crappy rap album is a riot to listen to!

[John Battles]

"Too Tough To Die" is my favorite Ramones album , full stop. The same crust as the first three , plus considerably evolved songwriting , and Joey really coming into his own as a singer , making Nick Cave sound like Morrissey , especially on the opener "Mama's Boy" . That was the first song to truly scare the shit out of me since "Beautiful Gardens" by The Cramps....."I Can't Get You Out of My Mind" , was'nt that on "Halfway To Sanity"? I'd have to look it up. But "This Business...." is one of many enjoyably strange toons on "Pleasant Dreams"....My favorite is probably "All is Quiet on The Eastern Front" or "You Did'nt Mean Anything To Me"( All this angst , and then..."We came across a miracle , there was beer in the soda machine"!.).
SMF said:

SMF said:

Too Tough to Die. Chock full of great tunes. Planet Earth 1988 may be the only Ramones song (other than cover songs) that ends in a minor chord!

I also love I Can't Get You Out Of My Mind and This Business is Killing Me off of Pleasant Dreams.

And how about their version of Happy Birthday played for Mr. Burns on the Simpsons...

EDIT DUE TO MY FAULTY BRAIN:

The song ending in a minor chord is I'm Not Afraid of Life... not Planet Earth 1988.
Oops.

Whew, I'm glad I cleared that up!

[John Battles]

Well , I'll see you and I'll raise you this , it's like saying The Cynics never had a good album after the first few , which ,of course , is utter bullshit.Both bands started out with something , and changed it , here and there , just enuff.  Mike has his convictions on that topic , as do many people , but , Tommy's production , in my somewhat addled opinion , was at it's BEST on " Too Tough To Die". Marky took a lot of heat , just because he knows more than three beats , but , while I like the simplicity of Tommy's drumming , had he stayed on , they probably would have had to have gotten Jerry Nolan or somebody to play the embellishments , the way Walter Lure was brought in to play some much - needed leads when Johnny refused to learn any.....
 
MikeL said:

Try telling this to Michael Kastelic of the Cynics:)  As far as he's concerned, those first three albums were the only good ones because Tommy was both the band's drummer and producer at the time.

Speaking for myself, I've heard some great tracks from the later albums on the UG, but I've just never gotten around to checking them out.  I especially like "7-11," "Go Lil' Camaro Go," "A Real Cool Time," and "Bonzo Goes to Bitburg."  The only later album I have is "End of the Century,"  and "Danny Says" is my favorite track from that album.

[John Battles]

"Go Lil' Camaro , Go" is definitely a keeper. Especially since it came out in the summer. This , despite the fact that Camaros were largely driven by douchebags at the time (Do they still even make Camaros , anymore?).  
 
MikeL said:

Try telling this to Michael Kastelic of the Cynics:)  As far as he's concerned, those first three albums were the only good ones because Tommy was both the band's drummer and producer at the time.

Speaking for myself, I've heard some great tracks from the later albums on the UG, but I've just never gotten around to checking them out.  I especially like "7-11," "Go Lil' Camaro Go," "A Real Cool Time," and "Bonzo Goes to Bitburg."  The only later album I have is "End of the Century,"  and "Danny Says" is my favorite track from that album.