Was anyone from the Hideout around during the 1st wave garage revival?

[James Demby]

I was digging through some old vinyl and reminiscing on the 80's garage revival.  Voxx records put out some great stuff during that time.  Some of my favorites are:

Gravedigger V - All Black and Hairy

Pandoras - It's About Time

Dwarves - Horror Stories

Miracle Workers - Inside Out

Stomachmouths - Wild Trip

Anyway, any old timers up here?  What were you digging on?

[doornail]

oldtimer here:

Rain Parade. Plan 9, Plasticland, The Inmates, Chesterfield Kings, just about anything on Midnight Records too, The Lyres, Soft Boys, Dream Syndicate, Creatures of the Golden Dawn, Dead Moon, The Prisoners, The Fleshtones, The Embrooks, Flamin' Groovies, Hoodoo Gurus, Long Ryders.  Just to name a few:

[Boston Paul]

"old timers"?  Well, aren't you just the cutest little thing!?  Growing up in Boston, Lyres were my favourite band by a wide margin at least 10 years before I heard the phrase "Garage" or "Garage revival".  They were just the best rock'n'roll band in town or any town.  Also loved the Malarians.

[IDON MINE]

Once again, this proves how gawddamn great this here network is. Good stories all around.

I was too young to rock in the 80's but not too young to stink.

[Mark George Harrison]

As a 16 year old rockabilly/psychobilly in 1980 on £28 a week after giving my mum £10 a week board, there wasn't much money left for records, especially as beer was 50p a pint! I wasn't aware of a garage revival as such until much later, bands like the Stingrays and the X-men all had quiffs and crossed in to the rocking scene without ever using the 'g' word. The Vibes, later the Purple Things, also were be-quiffed! Im not sure when garage came to be used to differentiate between the scenes, it's a question Ive had with several people of similar ages who were there as well.  

You young whippersnappers don't know how lucky you are with the internet, everything now is accesible. Press coverage was sparse to say the least and apart from a few 'bigger' bands American garage was pretty hard to get hold of and bloody expensive if you could find it, a collecion took years to build up and not a couple of hours downloading from the web.

Anyway, for me, the best garage bands available to me at the time were the Vibes/Purple things, Stingrays, Tall Boys, Prisoners, Turkey Bones and the wild dogs(check out goldfish and helicopter man). Always found the Milkshakes a bit too 'beat' for me but like later Childish bands. The garage goodies vol 1 album was probably the best British comp at the time as well. Hope this answers the question?

[John Battles]

 Mark George ,        Well , The British stuff did'nt come cheap , here , either. There was this whole new "Scene" that did'nt get much coverage in the states. I did play a lot of it on my old radio show in Dallas in '86. I may have been one of the first DJs to play that stuff in The U.S.

I played The Meteors , Guana Batz , etc. , too , alonside The Stingrays, who were mistaken for a Psychobilly band , because of the quiffs and  the standup bass. Bal said "Garage , Trash , Psychobilly , it's all the same thing. It's American music , and Americans don't understand it".   I COULD'NT find a lot of that stuff , yet , I loved the "Rockabilly Psychosis and The Garage Disease" and "Revenge of The Killer Pussies " albums . The Psychobilly thing seemed fresh at the time. I found The Washington Dead Cats' EARLY CASSETTE . They're still going , still terribly silly. But , this tape combined Psychedelia , Psychobilly , and a bit of Pere Ubu ,and , it worked .I still like it , and still have the psychedelic pattern shirt it came with !     Some of those other  bands , Prisoners, Vibes , Escalators , X-Men....Took a few years to find them , but , their records were much cheaper , by then.
 
Mark George Harrison said:

As a 16 year old rockabilly/psychobilly in 1980 on £28 a week after giving my mum £10 a week board, there wasn't much money left for records, especially as beer was 50p a pint! I wasn't aware of a garage revival as such until much later, bands like the Stingrays and the X-men all had quiffs and crossed in to the rocking scene without ever using the 'g' word. The Vibes, later the Purple Things, also were be-quiffed! Im not sure when garage came to be used to differentiate between the scenes, it's a question Ive had with several people of similar ages who were there as well.  

You young whippersnappers don't know how lucky you are with the internet, everything now is accesible. Press coverage was sparse to say the least and apart from a few 'bigger' bands American garage was pretty hard to get hold of and bloody expensive if you could find it, a collecion took years to build up and not a couple of hours downloading from the web.

Anyway, for me, the best garage bands available to me at the time were the Vibes/Purple things, Stingrays, Tall Boys, Prisoners, Turkey Bones and the wild dogs(check out goldfish and helicopter man). Always found the Milkshakes a bit too 'beat' for me but like later Childish bands. The garage goodies vol 1 album was probably the best British comp at the time as well. Hope this answers the question?

[Mark George Harrison]

Forgot the Escalators JB, another Meteors offshoot although I remember reading that Nigel Lewis was on a lot of high dosage meds for a back complaint and when he was more compus mentus disowned their entire output!

The blood on the cats, all four of them, were a weird combination of rockabilly, psychobilly, garage and goth! With a bit of punk on there for good measure with the Belfasts finest the Outcasts wrongly credited as the Outcats! Worth buying for the Wigs 'thirteen lines' took me until about ten years ago to find a copy of the Wigs ep, was told it didnt exist by a respected collector!

Albums today are probably cheaper than they were then, its singles that are bloody dear! is that the case in the States? An average 45 here is about £4.50 but an album is usually between £10 and £13.50 or there abouts. sorry to get off track but as an 'old timer' its my perogative!;)
John Battles said:

 Mark George ,        Well , The British stuff did'nt come cheap , here , either. There was this whole new "Scene" that did'nt get much coverage in the states. I did play a lot of it on my old radio show in Dallas in '86. I may have been one of the first DJs to play that stuff in The U.S.

I played The Meteors , Guana Batz , etc. , too , alonside The Stingrays, who were mistaken for a Psychobilly band , because of the quiffs and  the standup bass. Bal said "Garage , Trash , Psychobilly , it's all the same thing. It's American music , and Americans don't understand it".   I COULD'NT find a lot of that stuff , yet , I loved the "Rockabilly Psychosis and The Garage Disease" and "Revenge of The Killer Pussies " albums . The Psychobilly thing seemed fresh at the time. I found The Washington Dead Cats' EARLY CASSETTE . They're still going , still terribly silly. But , this tape combined Psychedelia , Psychobilly , and a bit of Pere Ubu ,and , it worked .I still like it , and still have the psychedelic pattern shirt it came with !     Some of those other  bands , Prisoners, Vibes , Escalators , X-Men....Took a few years to find them , but , their records were much cheaper , by then.
 
Mark George Harrison said:

As a 16 year old rockabilly/psychobilly in 1980 on £28 a week after giving my mum £10 a week board, there wasn't much money left for records, especially as beer was 50p a pint! I wasn't aware of a garage revival as such until much later, bands like the Stingrays and the X-men all had quiffs and crossed in to the rocking scene without ever using the 'g' word. The Vibes, later the Purple Things, also were be-quiffed! Im not sure when garage came to be used to differentiate between the scenes, it's a question Ive had with several people of similar ages who were there as well.  

You young whippersnappers don't know how lucky you are with the internet, everything now is accesible. Press coverage was sparse to say the least and apart from a few 'bigger' bands American garage was pretty hard to get hold of and bloody expensive if you could find it, a collecion took years to build up and not a couple of hours downloading from the web.

Anyway, for me, the best garage bands available to me at the time were the Vibes/Purple things, Stingrays, Tall Boys, Prisoners, Turkey Bones and the wild dogs(check out goldfish and helicopter man). Always found the Milkshakes a bit too 'beat' for me but like later Childish bands. The garage goodies vol 1 album was probably the best British comp at the time as well. Hope this answers the question?

[Johnny Bean]

I was around the London scene at that time, Hoodoo Gurus were the kings for me !!! Always loved the Cramps, Stems and The Prisoners, Long Ryders also played some great shows in that period. Always felt Milkshakes, Cannibals, Turkey Bones, Guana Batz et al were not very good, no memorable songs but the gigs were always a drunken laugh :)

[John Battles]

I think it just depends....Most domestic LPs are still about 8 to 11 dollars , which , of course , is NOTHING in English Pounds. 45s CAN RUN YOU ANYWHERE FROM 4 TO 8 dollars , which is LESS than nothing in English Pounds.  A lot of independent labels and stores did try hard to keep the prices down , but , now , it's a crapshoot.  Also , regionally , a lot of new releases may be more expensive , still.

Yeah , I also have the original Blood on The Cats comp - Everything from Screaming Lord Sutch to America's own Shockabilly (Who had no discernible Rockabilly influence , but , then again , neither does most latter - day "Psychobilly" .). I have The Wigs EP , too. I knew it existed , because it was listed in a Media Burn (?) ad , and I'm a Yank , fer chrissake.
 
Mark George Harrison said:

Forgot the Escalators JB, another Meteors offshoot although I remember reading that Nigel Lewis was on a lot of high dosage meds for a back complaint and when he was more compus mentus disowned their entire output!

The blood on the cats, all four of them, were a weird combination of rockabilly, psychobilly, garage and goth! With a bit of punk on there for good measure with the Belfasts finest the Outcasts wrongly credited as the Outcats! Worth buying for the Wigs 'thirteen lines' took me until about ten years ago to find a copy of the Wigs ep, was told it didnt exist by a respected collector!

Albums today are probably cheaper than they were then, its singles that are bloody dear! is that the case in the States? An average 45 here is about £4.50 but an album is usually between £10 and £13.50 or there abouts. sorry to get off track but as an 'old timer' its my perogative!;)
John Battles said:

 Mark George ,        Well , The British stuff did'nt come cheap , here , either. There was this whole new "Scene" that did'nt get much coverage in the states. I did play a lot of it on my old radio show in Dallas in '86. I may have been one of the first DJs to play that stuff in The U.S.

I played The Meteors , Guana Batz , etc. , too , alonside The Stingrays, who were mistaken for a Psychobilly band , because of the quiffs and  the standup bass. Bal said "Garage , Trash , Psychobilly , it's all the same thing. It's American music , and Americans don't understand it".   I COULD'NT find a lot of that stuff , yet , I loved the "Rockabilly Psychosis and The Garage Disease" and "Revenge of The Killer Pussies " albums . The Psychobilly thing seemed fresh at the time. I found The Washington Dead Cats' EARLY CASSETTE . They're still going , still terribly silly. But , this tape combined Psychedelia , Psychobilly , and a bit of Pere Ubu ,and , it worked .I still like it , and still have the psychedelic pattern shirt it came with !     Some of those other  bands , Prisoners, Vibes , Escalators , X-Men....Took a few years to find them , but , their records were much cheaper , by then.
 
Mark George Harrison said:

As a 16 year old rockabilly/psychobilly in 1980 on £28 a week after giving my mum £10 a week board, there wasn't much money left for records, especially as beer was 50p a pint! I wasn't aware of a garage revival as such until much later, bands like the Stingrays and the X-men all had quiffs and crossed in to the rocking scene without ever using the 'g' word. The Vibes, later the Purple Things, also were be-quiffed! Im not sure when garage came to be used to differentiate between the scenes, it's a question Ive had with several people of similar ages who were there as well.  

You young whippersnappers don't know how lucky you are with the internet, everything now is accesible. Press coverage was sparse to say the least and apart from a few 'bigger' bands American garage was pretty hard to get hold of and bloody expensive if you could find it, a collecion took years to build up and not a couple of hours downloading from the web.

Anyway, for me, the best garage bands available to me at the time were the Vibes/Purple things, Stingrays, Tall Boys, Prisoners, Turkey Bones and the wild dogs(check out goldfish and helicopter man). Always found the Milkshakes a bit too 'beat' for me but like later Childish bands. The garage goodies vol 1 album was probably the best British comp at the time as well. Hope this answers the question?

[John Battles]

Yes , it was around that time , I was beginning to wish I lived in England , so I could see my countrymen , The Cramps.   By the time I COULD see them , I'd been a fan for almost 10 years.   IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS THIS WHOLE NEW SCENE GOING ON , BUT , I KNEW THAT , BY THE TIME I'D FOUND OUT ABOUT IT , IT WAS COMING TO AN END......

I did'nt hear The Cramps' influence in the Psychobilly bands , which is fine , I just kept reading and hearing about "Cramps copyists" . I think The Cramps' frequent sojourns to Blighty motivated some of the changes taking place in The UK music scene , even if  Paul Fenech and others still deny it..      BUT ,  WHAT ABOUT KING KURT?  I HEARD THEY WERE HILARIOUS , LIVE.
 
Johnny Bean said:

I was around the London scene at that time, Hoodoo Gurus were the kings for me !!! Always loved the Cramps, Stems and The Prisoners, Long Ryders also played some great shows in that period. Always felt Milkshakes, Cannibals, Turkey Bones, Guana Batz et al were not very good, no memorable songs but the gigs were always a drunken laugh :)

[melissa scott]

*larf* Yeah, as long as you didn't mind sometimes gettin' covered in flour when you got too close to the stage. They were loud! And known to get their kit off. Not that I complained...

John Battles said:

Yes , it was around that time , I was beginning to wish I lived in England , so I could see my countrymen , The Cramps.   By the time I COULD see them , I'd been a fan for almost 10 years.   IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS THIS WHOLE NEW SCENE GOING ON , BUT , I KNEW THAT , BY THE TIME I'D FOUND OUT ABOUT IT , IT WAS COMING TO AN END......

I did'nt hear The Cramps' influence in the Psychobilly bands , which is fine , I just kept reading and hearing about "Cramps copyists" . I think The Cramps' frequent sojourns to Blighty motivated some of the changes taking place in The UK music scene , even if  Paul Fenech and others still deny it..      BUT ,  WHAT ABOUT KING KURT?  I HEARD THEY WERE HILARIOUS , LIVE.
 
Johnny Bean said:

I was around the London scene at that time, Hoodoo Gurus were the kings for me !!! Always loved the Cramps, Stems and The Prisoners, Long Ryders also played some great shows in that period. Always felt Milkshakes, Cannibals, Turkey Bones, Guana Batz et al were not very good, no memorable songs but the gigs were always a drunken laugh :)

[John Battles]

 GETTIN' THEIR WEDDING TACKLE OUT  , huh? It's more than most bands will do. A friend of mine , who'll remain nameless , we'll call him "Bill" . He used to go see them and said he came home , once , covered in flour and other crap like whipped cream that was being projected from the floor and the stage, he said it basically turned to glue , and He had to sneak back in the house without Mum and Da seeing the state of his clothes.
 
melissa scott said:

*larf* Yeah, as long as you didn't mind sometimes gettin' covered in flour when you got too close to the stage. They were loud! And known to get their kit off. Not that I complained...

John Battles said:

Yes , it was around that time , I was beginning to wish I lived in England , so I could see my countrymen , The Cramps.   By the time I COULD see them , I'd been a fan for almost 10 years.   IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS THIS WHOLE NEW SCENE GOING ON , BUT , I KNEW THAT , BY THE TIME I'D FOUND OUT ABOUT IT , IT WAS COMING TO AN END......

I did'nt hear The Cramps' influence in the Psychobilly bands , which is fine , I just kept reading and hearing about "Cramps copyists" . I think The Cramps' frequent sojourns to Blighty motivated some of the changes taking place in The UK music scene , even if  Paul Fenech and others still deny it..      BUT ,  WHAT ABOUT KING KURT?  I HEARD THEY WERE HILARIOUS , LIVE.
 
Johnny Bean said:

I was around the London scene at that time, Hoodoo Gurus were the kings for me !!! Always loved the Cramps, Stems and The Prisoners, Long Ryders also played some great shows in that period. Always felt Milkshakes, Cannibals, Turkey Bones, Guana Batz et al were not very good, no memorable songs but the gigs were always a drunken laugh :)

[melissa scott]

Well, they got down to their tidy whiteys (not all of 'em) once when I saw them. And after being covered in sweat and flour, it didn't leave a lot to the imagination.

Hmmm. No whipped cream when I went, but beer, sweat, and flour isn't a really good combination. Glue is the right way to put it. The crowd was mostly male and prone to jumping around and into each other. Good time had by all!

I give that band an awful lot of credit for putting the FUN into a music scene that took itself way too seriously. Extra points to KK for their insanely good times.

John Battles said:

 GETTIN' THEIR WEDDING TACKLE OUT  , huh? It's more than most bands will do. A friend of mine , who'll remain nameless , we'll call him "Bill" . He used to go see them and said he came home , once , covered in flour and other crap like whipped cream that was being projected from the floor and the stage, he said it basically turned to glue , and He had to sneak back in the house without Mum and Da seeing the state of his clothes.
 
melissa scott said:

*larf* Yeah, as long as you didn't mind sometimes gettin' covered in flour when you got too close to the stage. They were loud! And known to get their kit off. Not that I complained...

John Battles said:

Yes , it was around that time , I was beginning to wish I lived in England , so I could see my countrymen , The Cramps.   By the time I COULD see them , I'd been a fan for almost 10 years.   IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS THIS WHOLE NEW SCENE GOING ON , BUT , I KNEW THAT , BY THE TIME I'D FOUND OUT ABOUT IT , IT WAS COMING TO AN END......

I did'nt hear The Cramps' influence in the Psychobilly bands , which is fine , I just kept reading and hearing about "Cramps copyists" . I think The Cramps' frequent sojourns to Blighty motivated some of the changes taking place in The UK music scene , even if  Paul Fenech and others still deny it..      BUT ,  WHAT ABOUT KING KURT?  I HEARD THEY WERE HILARIOUS , LIVE.
 
Johnny Bean said:

I was around the London scene at that time, Hoodoo Gurus were the kings for me !!! Always loved the Cramps, Stems and The Prisoners, Long Ryders also played some great shows in that period. Always felt Milkshakes, Cannibals, Turkey Bones, Guana Batz et al were not very good, no memorable songs but the gigs were always a drunken laugh :)