Gary Glitter Comeback?

[Chris Henniker]

 There have been news reports of proto-punk Glam Gang bang Leader of... The fact he's paedo goes against him, as does the fact all his fans were 13, but since he got done thirteen years ago he now has 13 fans. His account even says:

'Let ye without sin cast the first stone. My past is behind me now, I want to focus on my tour, remastered album and music. #GlitterTour'

The question is who will own up and say they're a Glitter fan now? One has:

There has been a surprising show of support for the convicted pedophile's apparent reemergence, with one Twitter user calling themselves '@ACloakedFigure' posting: 'At risk of saying something controversial... Glitter served his sentence. And this is a free country or used to be.'

I still respect him as a musician, as he influenced punk, post-punk, new wave, goth, Britpop and hair metal, but wouldn't it take a miracle to resurrect his career? Say, his death?

No one playing his tracks or adding them to compilation cd's, so the royalties have dried up and there's no cash to buy plane tickets to Thailand and Cambodia so he's crawled back out of the woodwork.....please don't support this man in any comeback, he's ruined innocent children's lives and, with cash in hand, he'll ruin many more.

I bet this is the most  accurate observation of all, as it begs the question of what would it take to pull this off? Getting beaten up by vigilantes could be a good start, as he can claim the victim (like he does now, but with the justification for whinging about being beaten up gives him a sympathy ticket). Poor Gary. Yeah, right!

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2088999/Gary-Twitter-S...

[John Battles]

  It's true , Gary was a hit machine in Britain , and other countries , in the 70's , and , of course , Brownsville Station had a U.S. hit with "I'm The Leader of The Gang (I Am) ", while Joan Jett's version of "Do Ya Wanna Touch Me There (Oh Yeah)" went right through the roof , over here (Tho' I'll take Tommy James' version.). As with T Rex , Sweet and Slade , big things were predicted for Gary Glitter , at the time , in America , and though they all had hits (Slade had two low - charting singles in the 70's , and , of course , a big hit with "Run , Run Away"in the 80's.) , but , proper English did'nt translate , over here.  I DJ Glam Nights sometimes , and , if anyone tells me I'm not playing enough obscure stuiff , I tell them , It's ALL obscure , in the states.
 
Chris Henniker said:

I'd say it was a hoax, but he wouldn't get a passport or visa if it was true. It's a condition of his liberty not to leave the country. Not only that, the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974 doesn't apply to any sentence over 2.5 years.

That said, he was a one hit wonder in the US, but he was very influential here. This makes it  all the more shocking. Ok, Pete Townsend was a major influence, but there is a media double standard at work. Glitter makes better copy because his fans were only 10 year old girls, but also people like Townsend appealed more to guys.

Notification Periods for offenders Sentenced under Sexual Offences Act 2003:^[3]

• Imprisonment for life or for 30 months or more, imprisonment for public protection, or admission to hospital under restriction order, or subject to an Order for Lifelong Restriction: Indefinitely
• Imprisonment for more than 6 but less than 30 months: 10 years
• Imprisonment for 6 months or less, or admission to hospital without restriction order: 7 years
• Caution: 2 years
• Conditional discharge or (in Scotland) a probation order: Period of discharge or probation
• Any other: 5 years
• Finite notification periods are halved if the person is under 18 when convicted or cautioned.

John Battles said:

 It's a loaded question , to be sure.

I , personally , don't think Glitter could get a tour off the ground , at this point. Maybe , here in the states , where his music is virtually unknown (Save for the use of his one American hit , "Rock'n'Roll Pt. 2" , only better known today via it's appearance at sporting events . But ,  if you mentioned his name or the name of any of his better - known songs , the average U.S. sports fan would , most likely , draw a blank.) , he could embark on that U.S. tour he made tentative plans for , 40 years ago (He's performed a total of two songs in America.).....Maybe. All the controversy surrounding Gary Glitter in the last , roughly , 15 years , went under the radar in America , recieving very little coverage at all. He did appear on an episode of VH1's  "Where Are They Now?", before the internet porn charge , and the program dealt , briefly , with the fact that he'd been charged with , and acquited of , two charges of indecency with a minor. Outside of a cult following , Glitter remains so obscure , here , he would'nt rate a sidebar in a scandal sheet.

That out of the way ,    yes I'm a fan of Gary Glitter's music , but not of things he did , or is said to have done. I'm not pro - murder, either , but , I admire the work of Leadbelly , Joe Meek , Phil Spector (OK , the verdict's never going to be out , but....Gee , D'YA THINK?) , Pat Hare , and , maybe to a lesser extent , Taildragger. I don't condone woman beating , but , I still like Ike Turner and Brian Jones' music.....Bill Wyman usually gets lumped in with Gary Glitter on the now - synonymous topic of pedophilia , but he did have the girl's Mother's consent (So much so that her Mom hooked up with his Son !), Not saying that makes everything peachy keen, but he had'nt had a scandal in his whole career with The Rolling Stones , barring the "We piss anywhere" incident , and he was due for one. Jerry Lee Lewis and Chuck Berry did , or were accused of , everything short of selling secrets to The Russians during The Cold War. They're still great Artists.  And , as great Artists go , you could'nt argue with Chaplin or Picasso , both of whom married teenagers.  Several times.

Then , there's the simple fact that , back in Gary's day , a large number of Groupies , at least , in the states , were'nt even old enough to attend their Junior Prom. Who was complaining about that ?

Roger Daltrey said , shortly after Pete Townshend's internet porn case was swept under the rug , that the way he felt about Glitter was , that this is a sickness , and that the way society deals with it is wrong (Even if it does turn out that a person like Gary can't be cured.  It's still not illegal to have such thoughts , only to act upon them. ). Maybe there is no end - all solution , but , would it be the end of civilization if offenders were treated , psychologically? Still , even after serving jail time , Glitter seems to be in vast denial. Upon returning to Britain (And , soon , requesting permission to relocate to France , while authorities concurrently sought Roman Polanski's extradition from the same country , to stand trial , here.) , a Journalist asked him if he intended to get help for his problem. He was told , "No , because I have'nt done anything wrong". If he'd told the man it was'nt his business , it might not have made him appear delusional.

So , it still seems possible that this Twitter site is a hoax. And , even if it is'nt , I don't know how Glitter intends to pull off a comeback tour. Negative publicity , however , is still publicity.  

[Chris Henniker]

Do you play any of the stuff influenced by glam? Like early punk, post-punk, Britpop, new wave, etc? Perhaps asking for more obscure stuff shows you just can't win sometimes, even when it was obscure in the US. 

John Battles said:

  It's true , Gary was a hit machine in Britain , and other countries , in the 70's , and , of course , Brownsville Station had a U.S. hit with "I'm The Leader of The Gang (I Am) ", while Joan Jett's version of "Do Ya Wanna Touch Me There (Oh Yeah)" went right through the roof , over here (Tho' I'll take Tommy James' version.). As with T Rex , Sweet and Slade , big things were predicted for Gary Glitter , at the time , in America , and though they all had hits (Slade had two low - charting singles in the 70's , and , of course , a big hit with "Run , Run Away"in the 80's.) , but , proper English did'nt translate , over here.  I DJ Glam Nights sometimes , and , if anyone tells me I'm not playing enough obscure stuiff , I tell them , It's ALL obscure , in the states.
 
Chris Henniker said:

I'd say it was a hoax, but he wouldn't get a passport or visa if it was true. It's a condition of his liberty not to leave the country. Not only that, the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974 doesn't apply to any sentence over 2.5 years.

That said, he was a one hit wonder in the US, but he was very influential here. This makes it  all the more shocking. Ok, Pete Townsend was a major influence, but there is a media double standard at work. Glitter makes better copy because his fans were only 10 year old girls, but also people like Townsend appealed more to guys.

Notification Periods for offenders Sentenced under Sexual Offences Act 2003:^[3]

• Imprisonment for life or for 30 months or more, imprisonment for public protection, or admission to hospital under restriction order, or subject to an Order for Lifelong Restriction: Indefinitely
• Imprisonment for more than 6 but less than 30 months: 10 years
• Imprisonment for 6 months or less, or admission to hospital without restriction order: 7 years
• Caution: 2 years
• Conditional discharge or (in Scotland) a probation order: Period of discharge or probation
• Any other: 5 years
• Finite notification periods are halved if the person is under 18 when convicted or cautioned.

John Battles said:

 It's a loaded question , to be sure.

I , personally , don't think Glitter could get a tour off the ground , at this point. Maybe , here in the states , where his music is virtually unknown (Save for the use of his one American hit , "Rock'n'Roll Pt. 2" , only better known today via it's appearance at sporting events . But ,  if you mentioned his name or the name of any of his better - known songs , the average U.S. sports fan would , most likely , draw a blank.) , he could embark on that U.S. tour he made tentative plans for , 40 years ago (He's performed a total of two songs in America.).....Maybe. All the controversy surrounding Gary Glitter in the last , roughly , 15 years , went under the radar in America , recieving very little coverage at all. He did appear on an episode of VH1's  "Where Are They Now?", before the internet porn charge , and the program dealt , briefly , with the fact that he'd been charged with , and acquited of , two charges of indecency with a minor. Outside of a cult following , Glitter remains so obscure , here , he would'nt rate a sidebar in a scandal sheet.

That out of the way ,    yes I'm a fan of Gary Glitter's music , but not of things he did , or is said to have done. I'm not pro - murder, either , but , I admire the work of Leadbelly , Joe Meek , Phil Spector (OK , the verdict's never going to be out , but....Gee , D'YA THINK?) , Pat Hare , and , maybe to a lesser extent , Taildragger. I don't condone woman beating , but , I still like Ike Turner and Brian Jones' music.....Bill Wyman usually gets lumped in with Gary Glitter on the now - synonymous topic of pedophilia , but he did have the girl's Mother's consent (So much so that her Mom hooked up with his Son !), Not saying that makes everything peachy keen, but he had'nt had a scandal in his whole career with The Rolling Stones , barring the "We piss anywhere" incident , and he was due for one. Jerry Lee Lewis and Chuck Berry did , or were accused of , everything short of selling secrets to The Russians during The Cold War. They're still great Artists.  And , as great Artists go , you could'nt argue with Chaplin or Picasso , both of whom married teenagers.  Several times.

Then , there's the simple fact that , back in Gary's day , a large number of Groupies , at least , in the states , were'nt even old enough to attend their Junior Prom. Who was complaining about that ?

Roger Daltrey said , shortly after Pete Townshend's internet porn case was swept under the rug , that the way he felt about Glitter was , that this is a sickness , and that the way society deals with it is wrong (Even if it does turn out that a person like Gary can't be cured.  It's still not illegal to have such thoughts , only to act upon them. ). Maybe there is no end - all solution , but , would it be the end of civilization if offenders were treated , psychologically? Still , even after serving jail time , Glitter seems to be in vast denial. Upon returning to Britain (And , soon , requesting permission to relocate to France , while authorities concurrently sought Roman Polanski's extradition from the same country , to stand trial , here.) , a Journalist asked him if he intended to get help for his problem. He was told , "No , because I have'nt done anything wrong". If he'd told the man it was'nt his business , it might not have made him appear delusional.

So , it still seems possible that this Twitter site is a hoax. And , even if it is'nt , I don't know how Glitter intends to pull off a comeback tour. Negative publicity , however , is still publicity.  

[John Battles]

.....I'm too lazy to find it , but , I know , somewhere , I said Gary sang a total of two songs in America (R&R Pt.s 1 and 2 , of course , and I'm The Leader of The Gang ( I Am) at the "Soccer Rocks The Globe" show , when The World Cup was held in Chicago , in '92 , I believe.) , but , I just remembered he did the umpteenth "Quadrophenia'' tour with The Who , Billy Idol and Zak Starkey, in '96 (?), as "The Godfather". I'm sure a LOT of people in the audience did'nt know who he was.....

[John Battles]

WELL , i USUALLY DON'T GET A LOT OF TIME....So , I have to play the crowdpleasers by Gary , T Rex , Sweet , Suzi , Slade , Mud , Wizzard , Mott , Roxy , Bowie , Alice , Dolls , the like. If there's time , I'll slip in something more obscure....I don't play any post - glam ,as a rule . Maybe a Hanoi Rocks song.....On occasion, I've played proto - Glam , like John Kongos. Never played "Neanderthal Man " by Hotlegs or "The Raver " by The Troggs. You have to sense the crowd , sort it out in your mind. It went real well last year , because a good group of people came to dance , to Rock'n'Roll (Imagine.).
 
Chris Henniker said:

Do you play any of the stuff influenced by glam? Like early punk, post-punk, Britpop, new wave, etc? Perhaps asking for more obscure stuff shows you just can't win sometimes, even when it was obscure in the US. 

John Battles said:

  It's true , Gary was a hit machine in Britain , and other countries , in the 70's , and , of course , Brownsville Station had a U.S. hit with "I'm The Leader of The Gang (I Am) ", while Joan Jett's version of "Do Ya Wanna Touch Me There (Oh Yeah)" went right through the roof , over here (Tho' I'll take Tommy James' version.). As with T Rex , Sweet and Slade , big things were predicted for Gary Glitter , at the time , in America , and though they all had hits (Slade had two low - charting singles in the 70's , and , of course , a big hit with "Run , Run Away"in the 80's.) , but , proper English did'nt translate , over here.  I DJ Glam Nights sometimes , and , if anyone tells me I'm not playing enough obscure stuiff , I tell them , It's ALL obscure , in the states.
 
Chris Henniker said:

I'd say it was a hoax, but he wouldn't get a passport or visa if it was true. It's a condition of his liberty not to leave the country. Not only that, the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974 doesn't apply to any sentence over 2.5 years.

That said, he was a one hit wonder in the US, but he was very influential here. This makes it  all the more shocking. Ok, Pete Townsend was a major influence, but there is a media double standard at work. Glitter makes better copy because his fans were only 10 year old girls, but also people like Townsend appealed more to guys.

Notification Periods for offenders Sentenced under Sexual Offences Act 2003:^[3]

• Imprisonment for life or for 30 months or more, imprisonment for public protection, or admission to hospital under restriction order, or subject to an Order for Lifelong Restriction: Indefinitely
• Imprisonment for more than 6 but less than 30 months: 10 years
• Imprisonment for 6 months or less, or admission to hospital without restriction order: 7 years
• Caution: 2 years
• Conditional discharge or (in Scotland) a probation order: Period of discharge or probation
• Any other: 5 years
• Finite notification periods are halved if the person is under 18 when convicted or cautioned.

John Battles said:

 It's a loaded question , to be sure.

I , personally , don't think Glitter could get a tour off the ground , at this point. Maybe , here in the states , where his music is virtually unknown (Save for the use of his one American hit , "Rock'n'Roll Pt. 2" , only better known today via it's appearance at sporting events . But ,  if you mentioned his name or the name of any of his better - known songs , the average U.S. sports fan would , most likely , draw a blank.) , he could embark on that U.S. tour he made tentative plans for , 40 years ago (He's performed a total of two songs in America.).....Maybe. All the controversy surrounding Gary Glitter in the last , roughly , 15 years , went under the radar in America , recieving very little coverage at all. He did appear on an episode of VH1's  "Where Are They Now?", before the internet porn charge , and the program dealt , briefly , with the fact that he'd been charged with , and acquited of , two charges of indecency with a minor. Outside of a cult following , Glitter remains so obscure , here , he would'nt rate a sidebar in a scandal sheet.

That out of the way ,    yes I'm a fan of Gary Glitter's music , but not of things he did , or is said to have done. I'm not pro - murder, either , but , I admire the work of Leadbelly , Joe Meek , Phil Spector (OK , the verdict's never going to be out , but....Gee , D'YA THINK?) , Pat Hare , and , maybe to a lesser extent , Taildragger. I don't condone woman beating , but , I still like Ike Turner and Brian Jones' music.....Bill Wyman usually gets lumped in with Gary Glitter on the now - synonymous topic of pedophilia , but he did have the girl's Mother's consent (So much so that her Mom hooked up with his Son !), Not saying that makes everything peachy keen, but he had'nt had a scandal in his whole career with The Rolling Stones , barring the "We piss anywhere" incident , and he was due for one. Jerry Lee Lewis and Chuck Berry did , or were accused of , everything short of selling secrets to The Russians during The Cold War. They're still great Artists.  And , as great Artists go , you could'nt argue with Chaplin or Picasso , both of whom married teenagers.  Several times.

Then , there's the simple fact that , back in Gary's day , a large number of Groupies , at least , in the states , were'nt even old enough to attend their Junior Prom. Who was complaining about that ?

Roger Daltrey said , shortly after Pete Townshend's internet porn case was swept under the rug , that the way he felt about Glitter was , that this is a sickness , and that the way society deals with it is wrong (Even if it does turn out that a person like Gary can't be cured.  It's still not illegal to have such thoughts , only to act upon them. ). Maybe there is no end - all solution , but , would it be the end of civilization if offenders were treated , psychologically? Still , even after serving jail time , Glitter seems to be in vast denial. Upon returning to Britain (And , soon , requesting permission to relocate to France , while authorities concurrently sought Roman Polanski's extradition from the same country , to stand trial , here.) , a Journalist asked him if he intended to get help for his problem. He was told , "No , because I have'nt done anything wrong". If he'd told the man it was'nt his business , it might not have made him appear delusional.

So , it still seems possible that this Twitter site is a hoax. And , even if it is'nt , I don't know how Glitter intends to pull off a comeback tour. Negative publicity , however , is still publicity.