Hokay, I've become a real follower of politics since Bush & Obama, but I hate hardcore politics, keep 'em separate.
I think that listening to a lot of politically motivated music like the Dead Kennedy's or socially aware stuff like Minor Threat made me interested in politics and when I was old enough to vote I was a bit smarter than others my age because I could see the issues as opposed to just the crap coming out of the politicians mouth.
I hardly ever listen to those bands anymore, I still think they're great bands though.
I went and saw a touring Hardcore band last year. I can't remember who they were, some god awful modern hardcore act. A friend of mine who played in one of the support acts asked me what I thought of them, I said for me it was like they were preaching to the converted but hopefully some of the young people that were there got something out of it.
I do hate those preachy bands that tell me what to eat, no-one tells me what to eat.
Oh, and I don't like Crass, I fucking hate Crass.
Proles should take every soap box available, it's the only way to get heard. I guess it becomes cringeworthy when it starts to get preachy, like you're telling other how they should live and think as opposed to commenting on what you see happening around you. In terms of lyrics, you can do it in a more abstract way where those who share your political leanings will get what you're on about and those who don't care will simply take the tune as it is and belt out the chorus. Our previous incarnation, The Vipers, were pretty politically charged in terms of the lyrics, but there were only one or two reviewers who picked up on it. Most simply chose to focus on the music. There's a chance that if you're too preachy that you'll alienate some people. What you really want to do is try and get the ideas in their heads without them realising I guess.
Hi! It's nice to find someone else who follows politics here, we tend to double down on the partyin'!
That said, the MC5 were cool, but most of what I like on vinyl is the rock part, with a very few exceptions like Houston's Really Red, who were part hardcore/part art-punk/and part smartasses. REALLY RED - "Too Political - No More Ghettoes"
Most hardcore gives me the hives.
I tend to keep the politics separated from the music, like Poison Ivy said, it's cool that people want to save the rain forests and everything, but that shouldn't get in the way of having a good time!
Incidentally, I love the Von Zippers, but Youtube doesn't have that video. Any chance of seeing that here?
I nominate Keith Olbermann for punk bad boy of the US media -- shit-canned again? That guy really knows how to piss the right people ORF!